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Guy James



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Listen to "The Guy James Show" for outstanding Liberal radio Reply with quote
We're on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday from 3 to 5pm eastern time. You won't hear a better Liberal program. Listen live at www.theguyjamesshow.com and call in toll-free at 866-546-5254
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Looks like a pretty angry show. Hopefully it actually has content that's better than "Bush lied thousands died."

Sure you hate depending on the consumers to support the show and are hoping on government funds.
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Guy James



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:14 am    Post subject: Content guaranteed accurate Reply with quote
In fact, the content is far more factual than any Right-Wing talker you've heard. Nothing but facts instead of the propaganda spread by the "Drug Junkie" Limbaugh.

Government funds? Yeah, sure:)
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bush08
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Content guaranteed accurate Reply with quote
Guy James wrote:
In fact, the content is far more factual than any Right-Wing talker you've heard. Nothing but facts instead of the propaganda spread by the "Drug Junkie" Limbaugh.

Government funds? Yeah, sure:)


Right, why work and create something when you can tax working Americans to publish anti-American dribble?

The Fairness Doctrine I'm sure is on your top ten to do list right after you've broken Americas will to fight for freedom, destroying family values, etc.

Limbaugh?! Please. Yeah I'd have to agree.

Go on spreading the word that America is to blame for the worlds ills, Saddam was a nice guy, we need to redistribute wealth, Karl Marx was onto something even though Communism killed 300 million people, policies of retreat, social security is great, keep racism alive and well, etc.
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Guy James



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: It sure SOUNDS like you've been listening to "Pills"Limbaugh Reply with quote
You certainly have the talking points down well. Most of what you've said here is non-responsive. I didn't say anything about not working.

You are correct on one issue however. The Fairness Doctrine IS on our list of things to do. Getting rid of it allowed the Radical Right-Wing to take over the radio in America and it must be made fair again.
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bush08
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So you're against a free market and freedom of speech.

Horrible to let the people decide, when government knows best.

Let me just ask if I may, Where do we chop this up. Where do you cross out wording?

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Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Or just burn it altogether?
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Guy James



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Are the people deciding right now? Reply with quote
Foolish to bring that up at a time like this isn't it? 70% of the people against the Bush war and WHO decides? Bush? Not the people?

The fairness doctrine had nothing whatsoever to do with the people deciding. It had to do not with the people but rather the interest of big media ownership controlling what the people hear. I've worked in radio management for 30 years. I KNOW all about the fairness doctrine and how it has affected the listening public. The reasons for getting it abolished had nothing to do with the 1st Amendment. That is a VERY weak argument and would be laughed at even in Clear Channel boardroom meetings.

I challenge you to call the show and debate your radical conservative views. That way I can make you back up your words and in my experience the Repubs can rarely do that. In fact, I don't know when was the last time one called the show and made any sense. That is why I came to this forum. I wanted to find a Republican who made sense. I guess I'm wasting my time.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have no doubt you know more about the fairness doctrine, communist manifesto, etc.

The fairness doctrine requires coverage from different points of view. You deny this?

It's feel good liberal politics.

If you want to have a discussion on the flat tax for example on your show you'd have to have opposing viewpoints for your discussion. That sounds wonderful but it hinders YOUR freedom of speach. I don't agree with Air America, but I'd never impose on them that they needed to have opposing viewpoints as that's for them and their audience.

Telling someone they have freedom of speach as long as it's "fair" means you have no freedom of speach.

So please go burn the American flag ....but also burn an ACLU booklet to keep it a fair?...sheeesh.
Rolling Eyes

I'll make a point of it to catch your show, it's on right after Michael Medved.
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Guy James



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: No response again? Reply with quote
I noticed you didn't respond to this: "Foolish to bring that up at a time like this isn't it? 70% of the people against the Bush war and WHO decides? Bush? Not the people?"

Thats always what happens when one gets in a discussion with someone from the far right. As soon as their point gets shot down they change the subject.

Really, you are too far gone to have a rational discussion. Michael Medved? I invited him on my show and he refused. Shows you how much confidence he has in his political opinions.
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bush08
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Deflection....instead of answering the questions. Please respond to the actual questions imposed.

70% against? Maybe more than that. What was the congressional vote for the war? More than 70%.

Oh...right, Bush lied...convinced them all by distorting the facts and of course "Bush lied thousands died"

This of course means on the same exact evidence than Clinton lied, Blair lied, Putin lied, the list goes on.

Back to the question of the "fairness doctrine".

Does it not in fact require different viewpoints on political subjects? So freedom of speech as long as you have opposing viewpoints.

Your going to put an asterix in the first amendment and then impose that freedom of speech really means you have to have fair speech. And you call yourself a liberal? Please. Mao and Stalin would be so proud.

You distrust the Bush administration so much, but you want the govermnent to have power over free speech? Feel good politics over rational thought or answering the real questions.

Rolling Eyes

Michael Medved has had on everyone from the leaders of code pink, to Barbra Boxer. He has all sides on. Have you had on Republican Senators? The Minute Men?

If you can't get people on your show that's because of you. Your salesmanship/show. Free market sucks, I know.
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Guy James



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Same exact evidence? Reply with quote
After what we know about Bush "messaging" intelligence you want to say that it was the same exact evidence the others had?

I'm tiring of this. Don't you EVER use facts instead of mouthing the Right-Wing talking points? I suppose you think we actually found WMD's there as well? You ACTUALLY believe that Bush didn't lie about any of this? Man, that is a stretch

I believe the Libby trial is gradually exposing the whole sordid mess. Just as I predicted, we are now seeing the lengths these people will go to to cover their asses. This will lead to the downfall of Republican power and will relegate them to the bottom of the political heap for years to come.

If you want anymore response from me you'll have to call the show. I don't have the time for this.
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bush08
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
So Clinton was incompetent, or lied as well? He saw the same evidence. Putin, Chirac, all in a giant conspiracy?

Get over it. Did this administration cherry pick?, of course. Once you decide to goto war you put together an argument, maybe with your "fairness doctrine" the administration would have had to argue Saddams warm and fuzzy side as well to the UN. Lied, no. Please quote the lie.

Oh...you can't find it. Deflect, dodge, burn a flag, spit on some troops, "Bush lied thousands died"....

Quote the LIE....and your proof the Bush administration knew it was untrue. If you can't do that you're undermining American lives overseas in a time of war.

And you still can't answer my question...

Does the fairnes doctrine make it so one is forced to put in different viewoints on political discussion?

That's a yes or no question.

Deflect into Iraq War.... Rolling Eyes typical...
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Guy James



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Thanks for all of this. It will make a great radio subject Reply with quote
Man, you are amazing. You rattle off one fallacy after another and I think you might actually believe some of it. You build strawmen one on top of the other.

How about the forged Niger Documents just for starters? Is THAT a big enough lie for you? Several former Bush administration folks have admitted that they KNEW that document was bogus. It was such a pitiful forgery. And yet, Jr. Bush used it as evidence to go to war? How about the Downing Street Memo's? Not one denial from the Bush administration as to their authenticity. Man, if you don't realize that this war was built on almost nothing BUT lies then you just aren't able to deal with reality. Commies? Flag burning? Who the hell are you to accuse people of that?

And as for who I have had on my show, the list is most impressive. And yes, I've had right-wingers. How about Grover Norquist. I would guess he is one of your hero's? But I'm only guessing.

And, in cast you haven't noticed, the "spitting" incident has been proven to be bogus as well. The guy is a right-wing toady of Hannity's and Ollie North's.

So keep on living in lala land. I will not deal in any more of your juvenile banter. I came here looking for Republicans who would like to have open, honest political dialogue. I'm sorry I did. I'd have better luck with Neil Boortz.
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bush08
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sigh... still can't answer a simple question...

Throwing out dribble to deflect.

Forgery?

1) Investigations by the Senate Intelligence Committee;

2) Robb-Silberman Commission on prewar intelligence;

3)British Butler Commission;

All concluded it in fact was Mr. Wilson who was not telling the truth.

Whoah...wait just a minute, what are your sources, I think I have an idea;



They concluded that Saddam had tried to buy uranium in Africa, EVEN Mr. Wilson himself had acknowledged to the CIA officers who debriefed him after his Niger trip.

Amazing... simply amazing.

But back to the question;

Will the fairness doctrine force different points of view on political subjects?

And that's great you have on politicians that are Republican, would you go on the Medved show if asked?
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